Recent Posts - Awakenetwork - awakenetwork.org - awakenetwork.org http://awakenetwork.org Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:12:22 -0500 Kunena Forum (Joomla) /components/com_kunena/template/blue_eagle/images/icons/rss.png Recent Posts - Awakenetwork - awakenetwork.org en-gb PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: Elizabeth http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108073 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108073
Basic is free if you register. From the website that will allow you to host 40 min meetings if there are 3 or more participants (including the host) and unlimited if there are two. Looks like we might want pro for this.

I have Pro. I'd be happy to set up some meetings so we can try it out. Happy to host the PDS chats as well though might look at options for authorizing extra hosts in case I can't make it or have to drop off.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 19 Nov 2017 07:57:59 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: neko http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108072 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108072

Hope to make it next time! :)]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 19 Nov 2017 03:55:22 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: matthew sexton http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108070 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108070 Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 19 Nov 2017 02:28:39 -0500 PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108069 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108069
As a note, we had some connection issues with the videolink2.me platform. We then transitioned to Google Hangouts, but there was not space on there for everyone to join, which was very unfortunate. I will be looking to sign up for Zoom for next month, which is supposed to be a really good tool for large video chats. Also, I will attempt to record the next chat for anyone who can't make it. To do this we just need to get explicit permission from everyone on the call, before we start recording.

Attendees (apologies if I left anyone off):
Culadasa
Nathan
Barine
Anthony
Elizabeth
Matt
Denholm
Geoff
Jim
Noah
Jason
David

Links from call:
www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/comments/79...ja608t7w&sh=1b5f2bf0
www.eso-garden.com/specials/the_way_of_energy.pdf
www.youtube.com/user/StandStillBeFit


Topics we discussed:
practice shares
questions for culadasa
the development of piti
qigong, tai chi, energy work, etc
what is pragmatic dharma?
sangha building logistics
spreading the dharma
tanha & the attainment of second path
working with memories of stressful experiences

x-posted to dho, reddit, AN, chats & email]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 19 Nov 2017 00:12:14 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108067 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108067 savvytime.com/converter/utc-to-pst/nov-18-2017/10pm). It will be at this link, which is for videolink2.me (an in browser vid chat service): bit.ly/2jCWfE1. If there are any technical difficulties, we can switch to Google Hangouts. Should be a lot of fun!]]> Pragmatic Dharma Society Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:30:58 -0500 PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108061 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108061 Geoff wrote:
neko wrote:
Btw, could you clarify what is wrong with these two comments:

Here are some examples of how not to comment (1st person plural, 2nd person):
- “Sometimes in our practice, we bring too much effort to the table & lose sight of the original goal. We need to relax & focus on our bodies as a whole, rather than on any one point of the breath.”
- “It sounds like you are experiencing the hindrance of restlessness due to focusing too tightly on your nose. You should try moving to the body instead.”

Are these "forbidden" during introductions only, or in general?

Having also participated in SPUDS (and seen similar things come up in 12 step meetings, where cross-talk or commentary is wholly forbidden), it's often most helpful to just let people talk and be heard. Oftentimes the whole group starts chiming in with advice, which we liken to playing dodgeball with the poor seeker on the other side of the court :)

If someone asks for advice, it's reasonable to give it to them. But oftentimes peoples' advice is solely based on what worked for THEM, which may not work for others, and may result in frustration and confusion for all involved.

Thanks Geoff. You said it best.

I don't want to do too much structure, but it's wonderful when people open up & speak to their own experience & feelings about practice rather than push agendas. So however we can make that happen would be the move.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:19:53 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: Geoff http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108056 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108056 neko wrote:
Btw, could you clarify what is wrong with these two comments:

Here are some examples of how not to comment (1st person plural, 2nd person):
- “Sometimes in our practice, we bring too much effort to the table & lose sight of the original goal. We need to relax & focus on our bodies as a whole, rather than on any one point of the breath.”
- “It sounds like you are experiencing the hindrance of restlessness due to focusing too tightly on your nose. You should try moving to the body instead.”

Are these "forbidden" during introductions only, or in general?

Having also participated in SPUDS (and seen similar things come up in 12 step meetings, where cross-talk or commentary is wholly forbidden), it's often most helpful to just let people talk and be heard. Oftentimes the whole group starts chiming in with advice, which we liken to playing dodgeball with the poor seeker on the other side of the court :)

If someone asks for advice, it's reasonable to give it to them. But oftentimes peoples' advice is solely based on what worked for THEM, which may not work for others, and may result in frustration and confusion for all involved.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:55:18 -0500
PDS - Directory of Meetups - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108053 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108053 neko wrote:
Noah wrote:
How long have you guys been meeting?

Since September 2014. We're about 10 regulars and almost as many different nationalities :)

Florian (Weps) started the mailing list a bit earlier than that, but it wasn't really active until a certain critical mass was reached.




Noah wrote:
My time in the Seattle group indicates that conversation is better when people speak to their experience. I likely won't say anything unless someone was being really silly though.

So would you be ok if someone said something like "I believe I went through something similar to what you describe, and practices X Y Z helped me work with / through it"?

I guess it depends a lot on the specifics, like how well you know the people in the meetup group, how similar the approaches to meditation, and so on.

Damn you guys have been around for a long time! I'm surprised we hadn't connected earlier. Glad to include you in this directory. Maybe you could give us some advice from a more seasoned perspective. If you're able to join the video call that could be an interesting discussion topic.

Re the way of speaking in the video meetings, I just deleted that part based on your feedback.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:31:23 -0500
PDS - Directory of Meetups - by: neko http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108052 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108052 neko wrote:
You could add our meetup in Berlin:

Dharma Overground Berlin (Germany) meetup group:
Meeting Time: Variable
Meeting Location: Members' homes
Meeting Format: Open Discussion + sitting practice
For More Information: email dho-berlin (rat) lists (pot) hactrn (rot) ch

Actually for the Dho-Berlin group, contact us at:

www.hactrn.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dho-berlin

the email address I gave above won't work unless you've subscribed already.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:48:37 -0500
PDS - Directory of Meetups - by: neko http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108051 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108051 Noah wrote:
How long have you guys been meeting?

Since September 2014. We're about 10 regulars and almost as many different nationalities :)

Florian (Weps) started the mailing list a bit earlier than that, but it wasn't really active until a certain critical mass was reached.




Noah wrote:
My time in the Seattle group indicates that conversation is better when people speak to their experience. I likely won't say anything unless someone was being really silly though.

So would you be ok if someone said something like "I believe I went through something similar to what you describe, and practices X Y Z helped me work with / through it"?

I guess it depends a lot on the specifics, like how well you know the people in the meetup group, how similar the approaches to meditation, and so on.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:43:53 -0500
PDS - Directory of Meetups - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108049 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108049 neko wrote:
You could add our meetup in Berlin:

Dharma Overground Berlin (Germany) meetup group:
Meeting Time: Variable
Meeting Location: Members' homes
Meeting Format: Open Discussion + sitting practice
For More Information: email dho-berlin (rat) lists (pot) hactrn (rot) ch

Thanks! That's awesome. How long have you guys been meeting?]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:33:57 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108048 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108048 neko wrote:
Btw, could you clarify what is wrong with these two comments:

Here are some examples of how not to comment (1st person plural, 2nd person):
- “Sometimes in our practice, we bring too much effort to the table & lose sight of the original goal. We need to relax & focus on our bodies as a whole, rather than on any one point of the breath.”
- “It sounds like you are experiencing the hindrance of restlessness due to focusing too tightly on your nose. You should try moving to the body instead.”

Are these "forbidden" during introductions only, or in general?

My time in the Seattle group indicates that conversation is better when people speak to their experience. I likely won't say anything unless someone was being really silly though.]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:19:57 -0500
Welcome! - by: matthew sexton http://awakenetwork.org/forum/102-welcome/129-welcome?start=625#108046 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/102-welcome/129-welcome?start=625#108046 ]]> Welcome Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:34:55 -0500 Welcome! - by: Daniel http://awakenetwork.org/forum/102-welcome/129-welcome?start=625#108045 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/102-welcome/129-welcome?start=625#108045
I started practicing in 2003 after receiving a Reiki treatment that kicked me immediately into a forceful A&P followed by a few hours of fear and anxiety, an awakening of energy currents in my body, and the permanent dropping away of boredom and irrational anger that had characterized much of my late teenage years leading up to the experience. After that I changed my major to East Asian Studies and began studying Buddhism and Daoism while engaging in all manner of practices, ranging from zazen in the Rinzai tradition, qigong, Reiki, Daoist inner alchemy, some Shingon esoteric practices, and energy work in Robert Bruce's NEW system. I dabbled through these various traditions and techniques as I intensely studied the religions and languages of East Asia through undergrad and grad school. After finishing my degrees I switched gears by teaching the Western classics for the last decade or so. As a result, I am thoroughly versed in the primary texts of the East and the West and have focused all of my free reading time on developing my understanding of the complexity and interconnectedness of the contemplative traditions throughout the world. I also am the type that can easily switch my reality tunnels, going from Christian to Buddhist to agnostic or from faith healer/energy worker to pragmatist to skeptic as the day goes by and my conversational partner switches.

A year ago I discovered The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa and have been working my way progressively through the Stages, which has given me a foundation that my practice has long been lacking. Over the summer I went on a 10 day Goenka retreat (my first retreat that was more than three days) and on Day 5 I had a massive kundalini awakening and I hit a dark night so shockingly powerful that it sent me home early from the retreat in an ambulance (I thought I might be going crazy and the retreat leaders had no idea what to do with someone who was convulsing uncontrollably with kriyas). I experienced numerous permanent shifts (wavelike piti on command, more mental silence, jhanas opened up easily afterward) following the peak experience, but I suspect that I am presently vacillating between reobservation and equanimity, given the anxiety that comes on every few days (following my first passing of the A&P I had stopped feeling any anxiety, even before giving speeches to large audiences). This anxiety is powerful and it does not seem to have any source, but I can pretty easily watch it without any clinging or aversion. Otherwise, my sits are filled with joy and pleasure.

That about sums up where I am right now. I look forward to working with this community.]]>
Welcome Sun, 12 Nov 2017 23:20:47 -0500
Random Dharma - by: Chris Marti http://awakenetwork.org/forum/105-reading-listening-and-viewing-recommendations/9305-random-dharma?start=725#108043 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/105-reading-listening-and-viewing-recommendations/9305-random-dharma?start=725#108043 Reading, Listening and Viewing Recommendations Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:46:12 -0500 Random Dharma - by: every3rdthought http://awakenetwork.org/forum/105-reading-listening-and-viewing-recommendations/9305-random-dharma?start=725#108042 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/105-reading-listening-and-viewing-recommendations/9305-random-dharma?start=725#108042 The Bully and the Buddhist

"A former schoolyard bully, Jeff Zlotnik found a new identity through Buddhism. A classmate wonders why he changed—and if he remembers the pain he caused."

As someone who got bullied a lot at school I found this article really interesting.]]>
Reading, Listening and Viewing Recommendations Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:42:16 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: neko http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108040 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108040
Here are some examples of how not to comment (1st person plural, 2nd person):
- “Sometimes in our practice, we bring too much effort to the table & lose sight of the original goal. We need to relax & focus on our bodies as a whole, rather than on any one point of the breath.”
- “It sounds like you are experiencing the hindrance of restlessness due to focusing too tightly on your nose. You should try moving to the body instead.”

Are these "forbidden" during introductions only, or in general?]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:49:40 -0500
PDS - Directory of Meetups - by: neko http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108039 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13622-pds-directory-of-meetups#108039
Dharma Overground Berlin (Germany) meetup group:
Meeting Time: Variable
Meeting Location: Members' homes
Meeting Format: Open Discussion + sitting practice
For More Information: visit the mailing list page www.hactrn.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dho-berlin]]>
Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:41:30 -0500
PDS - Monthly Video Chats - by: neko http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108038 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108038 Pragmatic Dharma Society Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:37:30 -0500 PDS - Monthly Video Chats - November 2017 - by: Noah http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108019 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/pds/13630-pds-monthly-video-chats-november-2017#108019 What: The first, monthly Pragmatic Dharma society (PDS) video chat. If you are interested, please sign up at this mailing list: eepurl.com/c9sgUT. I will send out a reminder & instructions on accessing the chat a day or two before.

When:
  • U.S. PST: Saturday, 11/18/2017 at 2:00pm
  • U.K: Saturday, 11/18/2017 at 10:00pm
  • AEST: Sunday, 11/19/2017 at 8:00am

We will meet for 90 minutes.

I want to make it clear that everyone is invited, I just happen to have friends who would want to join from these time zones. I have picked this time because I believe it will when the most people will be able to join across the board.

Where: I will send out an email before the chat with link to videolink2.me.

All that’s needed is mic, speakers & browser to use. If this platform doesn’t work well, I’m willing to try another one next time but I wanted to start with one people did not have to download.

Why: For fun. To deepen your practice. To share ideas & experiences. To make friends. For support. To geek out on unusual, common interests.

For details on moderation, safety & inclusion, please see the bottom section - Other Notes.

PDS is not a new forum, community or podcast, but rather an attempt to connect preexisting pragmatic dharma community members through video & in person meeting. I am defining "pragmatic" here as anyone who is involved in mystical or contemplative practice, believes deep, identifiable transformation is possible & finds talking about it to be useful & fun. It is not specifically Buddhist nor connected with a specific forum, teacher, book, technique or map. At this time, I am not interested in renaming the group, although I would consider that in the future.

PDS was started late last year in Seattle when a group of people from the pragmatic meditation forums began to meet in person. We’ve seen how beneficial it is to practice to have face-to-face, rather than text or audio contact only. Also, it has been amazing to see the cooperation & synergy of a group in-person rather than clusters of 1-1 relationships in-person.

What Will The Chat Be Like: I am planning on tightly moderating the video chats at first & then ‘loosening the reins’ as appropriate. Here are some key points -
Everyone will be required to display video, identify themselves by first name, as well as their handle on the forums, if they use one. The purpose of this is to keep things honest.
We will start with short introductions & ‘how is your practice debriefs.’ These will need to stay around 90 seconds if there is a group of 10 or more on the call. Example: “Hi, I’m Noah, I go by Noah on the DhO, AN & Reddit. I’ve trained in Mahasi noting & Thai Forest Tradition. My primary teachers have been Ron Crouch & Dhammarato. I’m also a part of Seattle PDS. My current practice is tantra, samatha on the body/ground & the eightfold path as a whole.”
  • If you have a question after a share, hold it until the end of the shares.
  • At the end of the shares, we will open it up to questions/comments about other people’s shares.
In making comments, speak to your direct experience.
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If there is still time left at the end, there are a variety of topics we can explore. Here are some of them:
  • What are some books, talks or other resources you’ve found to be helpful lately?
  • What was the last, deep practice “shift” or transformation you’ve experienced & how has it benefited, or not benefited your life?
  • What are your short-term & long-term practice goals & why?
  • Compare & contrast the effects that 2 or more practice techniques have had on your mind.
Other Notes:
  • Because I am opening this call up to the public, I can not ensure complete privacy. Please do not share anything you would not write on a public forum during the call.
  • Making everyone feel comfortable is a top concern of mine. Everyone will be required to identify themselves at the beginning of the call. If anyone displays a hostile or negative form of communication, they will not be invited to the next call. I will do my best to moderate for inclusive speech, the elimination of micro-aggressions, sensitivity to identity & other basic aspects of right speech. If there are any adjustments needed, please let me know for next time.
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Pragmatic Dharma Society Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:18:39 -0500