Recent Posts - Awakenetwork - awakenetwork.org - awakenetwork.org http://awakenetwork.org Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:16:11 -0400 Kunena Forum (Joomla) /components/com_kunena/template/blue_eagle/images/icons/rss.png Recent Posts - Awakenetwork - awakenetwork.org en-gb Do you sleep well? - by: Ona Kiser http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112780 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112780 Stream Of Consciousness Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:08:09 -0400 Do you sleep well? - by: Tom Otvos http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112779 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112779 Stream Of Consciousness Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:48:32 -0400 Do you sleep well? - by: Ona Kiser http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112775 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112775 Benjie OK wrote:
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Naps are one of my favourite things, and I partake of them liberally.

I have taken up napping in the last several years and now enjoy it very much. I didn't enjoy it when I was younger as I tended to be anxious and fretful. I still associate napping with old people, though. lol.]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:22:49 -0400
Do you sleep well? - by: Ona Kiser http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112774 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112774 shargrol wrote:
I find this pattern works, but only during the long nights of winter.

More or less similar for me: if I go to bed before 10, which I like to do, I generally wake up for a while somewhere between 1 and 4, may stay awake happily for an hour or so, and may read or (fairly rarely) get up and do something. I then wake up again for morning between 6 and 7am. If I go to bed later than that I don't have the gap in sleep (though I might wake up briefly, I don't feel alert and lay there thinking or reading).

Summer days here are about 13 hours, winter days about 11 hours. So there isn't the very long/short cycle to deal with.]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:20:52 -0400
Do you sleep well? - by: Benjie OK http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112769 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112769
Mostly, yes. Our new cat has discovered in the last few weeks that bopping us in the head while we're sleeping is a great way to get some attention in the wee hours of the night. But besides that interruption, I'm sleeping surprisingly well. It's normal for me to have a dream that gets too intense most nights, or that ends on it's own, and I wake up either to end the dream, or because it reached that natural end. These naturally ending dreams are very new - it's been more common for my dreams to get stuck in loops, usually with me trying to run away from something and being unable to. It's like my brain is finishing stories now, rather than getting stuck in them?

2) How do you define sleeping well? (ie how many and what kind of interruptions are permissible before it becomes sleeping badly?)

Not sweating/overheating, being able to fall right back asleep if I come to consciousness, and waking up easily without grogginess.

3) How do you define sleeping badly?

Taking a long time to fall asleep, sweating through the night, bad nightmares, having trouble getting out of bed the next morning.

3a) Do you regularly use a home remedy or pharmacy remedy to help you sleep?
and related to that

Sometimes cannabis helps, but I try not to smoke it right before bed too much. It suppresses my dreams, which makes them rebound when I don't use the drug, and I tend to be much groggier the next morning. But if my mind is racing and I can't fall asleep, I find it helps nudge me there.

4) If/when you wake up at night are you anxious?

Depends on the cause. If it's from a nightmare, yes. I had a period where I was having night terrors and waking up my partner when I shouted or cried out.

5) Are you similarly anxious when awake during the day? (ie is anxiety just kind of a baseline no matter what?)

Lately, yes. Good days lately are days where I just have a background of anxiety, rather than a pressing feeling of impending doom.

6) Anything else

Naps are one of my favourite things, and I partake of them liberally.]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:29:39 -0400
Do you sleep well? - by: shargrol http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112768 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112768 Stream Of Consciousness Thu, 23 Jul 2020 06:31:14 -0400 Do you sleep well? - by: Tom Otvos http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112767 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112767 radio program about sleep, hosted by Jeff Warren. He did this thing where he slept when he felt tired, did not use electricity for lights, and basically just followed the natural rhythm of the world. After a week or two, he got into what was apparently a common pattern until recent times: sleeping until 1or 2 am, then waking for several hours, then sleeping again. So maybe forcing a "full night's" sleep is not the natural thing and you should take advantage of the mid-night wakefulness?]]> Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:38:32 -0400 Do you sleep well? - by: shargrol http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112765 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112765 :)]]> Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:47:55 -0400 Do you sleep well? - by: Ona Kiser http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112763 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112763 Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:19:25 -0400 Do you sleep well? - by: Chris Marti http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112761 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112761
1) Have you slept well in the past 10 days? Yes, I have.

2) How do you define sleeping well? (ie how many and what kind of interruptions are permissible before it becomes sleeping badly?) I define sleeping well as being able to get to sleep quickly and stay asleep for extended periods but not necessarily all night.

3) How do you define sleeping badly? The opposite - not being able to get to sleep or waking up often during the night and staying awake for extended periods.

3a) Do you regularly use a home remedy or pharmacy remedy to help you sleep? No, though in the past I've tried a few. They never seem to work well. For me, the best home remedy is exercise and dealing with the shit that comes up every day when it comes up, not letting stuff occupy mind space over longer periods.

4) If/when you wake up at night are you anxious? No, unless there is some major crisis occurring in my life or the life of a loved one.

5) Are you similarly anxious when awake during the day? (ie is anxiety just kind of a baseline no matter what?) I'm not usually anxious but I do have periods of high energy that are related to thinking of how to do something I want to do either work-related or personal. Some might call this anxiety but I call it "useful energy."

6) Anything else I like shargrol's comment about how much athletes sleep every day. That is, indeed, telling.]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 09:27:44 -0400
Do you sleep well? - by: shargrol http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112759 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112759
The last few days have been an anomalous time (my dog is very sick/dying and needs attention in the middle of the night), but that said...

I define sleeping well as turning off the lights at 9pm and asleep by 9:15 and waking up at 5 or 5:15, with a minimum of tossing and turning. I rarely wake up for more than 1 minute during the night, rarely need to pee. :) I tend to sleep through storms and other normal noises, yet wake up when there are strange noises...

Yeah, I've slept well (prior to the last few days :) ).

I define sleeping badly as strong thinking-dreams (not restful sleep), insomnia after waking up at 1 or 2 am, sickness sleep (like when having a fever --- ugh, that's awful), and/or less than 7 1/2 hour sleep.

No sleep remedy needed. Well, sometimes I take a soak in a warm bath and I do like to keep my bedroom as dark and cool as possible -- both of these really help.

If/when you wake up at night are you anxious? No, or at least very very very rarely. Usually I'll have thinking-dreams and wake up early ~4AM if I'm anxious. (Edit: and I should mention that this anxiety usually has some element of truth, so I find that these mornings I often start working/solving some home or work related problem. I used to begrudge my anxious mind, but it's sort of a friend now.)

Are you similarly anxious when awake during the day? (ie is anxiety just kind of a baseline no matter what?) No, the anxiousness is fleeting, although sometimes the cortisol feeling lingers into mid-morning, kinda like an anxious hangover.

For me, the biggest determinant of good sleep is 1) not too much coffee (3 mugs MAX and last one no later than 2PM, ideally tea after lunch instead), 2) just the right amount of exercise" which means I'm tired but not exhausted, and 3) going to bed completely sober. Athletes sleep ~10 a day, usually daytime nap and full nights sleep, which to me is very telling. I tend to have my happy hour around 4:30 and meal around 5:30, so I'm completely detoxed and digesting by the time I lay in bed. Plus the dark and cool room thing.

Hope this is helpful in some way!]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 09:17:01 -0400
Do you sleep well? - by: Tom Otvos http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112755 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112755
I do feel like I could sleep more. Possibly I am just on edge for most of the day, or just mentally tired from work...something is draining me. But I have very little anxiety in the meaning that I think of when I hear that word.]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:22:20 -0400
Do you sleep well? - by: Ona Kiser http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112753 http://awakenetwork.org/forum/stream-of-consciousness/13755-do-you-sleep-well#112753 two SIX things:

1) Have you slept well in the past 10 days?
2) How do you define sleeping well? (ie how many and what kind of interruptions are permissible before it becomes sleeping badly?)
3) How do you define sleeping badly?
3a) Do you regularly use a home remedy or pharmacy remedy to help you sleep?
and related to that
4) If/when you wake up at night are you anxious?
5) Are you similarly anxious when awake during the day? (ie is anxiety just kind of a baseline no matter what?)
6) Anything else

I would love to hear anecdotally about people besides yourself, if you are aware of a friend, relative, etc who has told you about their sleep.

I guess my direction of curiosity is whether we would do better to redefine what 'good' sleep is, if no one actually has ever experienced it. And I can't think of a single person I've ever talked to who said "Wow, I just sleep so well all the time, it's so amazing." I rarely sleep through the night. Maybe never.]]>
Stream Of Consciousness Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:00:26 -0400