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Oh yeah, back to the AI in the medical office. ( patient rooms ). A little back story... EMR ( electronic medical records ) were touted as time-savin wonder that was going to allow Drs. and PA's to have increased efficiency. Now we would be able to document a patients encounter with a few clicks of a mouse....and we would be able to save money by reducing staff! Paper charts were inefficient the sales people said!!. Move into the future! I trained on on a clunky first gen. EMR in 2004. My doctor was so proud of her investment, inviting all her doctor friends over to the office to see her forward thinking. It was a piece of garbage! Paper charting was soooo much faster. Fast forward a few years... second gen...still garbage. Too much time to document, zero flexibility, endless scrolling, clicking. And I had to do it all. Five years ago, we got the latest generation " state of the art ", but this time a whole new classification of medical workers has been created... the scribe. Now we will be freed up from any tapping, bopping, scrolling... but somebody else will do it! And we will add more staff now, so instead of two workers per Dr./PA. we now need three... and still inefficiencies because, well, this staff needs to be trained...and when just get trained well enough... they leave. Because well, there is turnover when companies don't want to pay staff well enough..
So back to the present. This EMR company is all in with AI. They are planning to record 1,000,000 patient encounters over the next 6 months to build their model. I will be able to hit a button, record the conversation and it will potentially auto populate the entire patient record, order labs, and send prescriptions with a simple ok. from me. But first, we have to fill out paperwork... liability release paperwork from every person in the room. I am going to nope out on the training data acquisition as much as I would like to help build the model. We simply don't have the time to explain all this to our elderly folks and try to convince them that this will be a good thing in their best interest. And most of my patients are older and very, very conservative. Skeptical and untrusting of " new fangled stuff like smart phones "
Who is listening to me? Is this Joe Biden's idea? Are you going to microchip me while you are at it too? ...
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That can be done right now. Today. Try to keep up, manProbably in a year or so, you indeed will be able to have him reading it in his voice...
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What people? The therapists referred to by the AI? If so then no, they're real. I checked - they all have extensive public records and practices that are documented. They're the results of Bing search the AI did in real-time in answer to my question. And of course, the Buddhism teachers are real - we know them to exist, pre-LLM AI.Are any of these people hallucinations?
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Inside Insight, The Founding Story
<Props to Har-Prakash Khalsa>
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Ulimately, I feel like the plain language interface slows me down. I would rather have 250 links given to me and then use my own intelligence to skim and locate what I'm looking for.
That's my experience as a very late adopter... I'm sure it will evolve.
And, for the record, I for one welcome our new AI overlords.
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I'm learning this huge lesson by doing what I'm doing on OpenAI and a few other platforms - AI is more fun to make than it is to use. I think this explains a lot of the enthusiasm surrounding AI and a lot of the disappointment, too.
But... there are very clearly valuable use cases for AI, so I keep pecking away.
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This could be super powerful, and I am glad you took this on.
-- tomo
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Oh no! The dhamma first gets watered down by the west and now stripped down to its 1’s and 0’s !!!
What’s next? My personal AI Jesus! Or my personal AI Buddha? Ha!
p.s. just kidding!
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Yes, we can feed AN, KFD, etc. to a ChatGPT. Let's talk about how to do that. I've been thinking about this and have some ideas. It would involve only public comments.
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The custom AI I've been working on has the following in its knowledge:
- MCTB2
- My personal meditation log
- Shargrol's DhO dialog as curated by the DhO member "Pepe"
- The Visudhimagga
- The message board discussions on the DhO, although I have to force the AI to parse this website for each use for some reason
It's easy to add saved text content. I don't know if OpenAI has a size limit on the knowledge subscribers can add but it might be fun to find out. What other public-domain Buddhism information can I add? Open to suggestions to help make this an all-around expert system.
I do worry about ChatGPT bleeding information so before any of this goes public in the ChatGPT store they'll have to fix that.
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Should the various discourses be used as input?
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The GPT I've worked on started as a purely MCTB2-centric entity. Then, to experiment with it, I added the other knowledge (my log, shargrol, etc.). The purpose was to figure it out and play around with it; How did adding new knowledge change its responses? How easy or hard is it to add/remove knowledge sources? What's the file format to use when adding sources, and does it matter? Stuff like that.
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https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/view_message/26372609#_com_liferay_message_boards_web_portlet_MBPortlet_message_26377838
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An MCTB2 AI
Assuming you can access the URL, when you click on the link that says "Open" what happens?
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It works. I'm asked to create a free account for Mindstudio (which I did not)...
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If you create a free account you will be able to access and use the MCTB2 AI I created a while back.
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The more I play around with this stuff, the more I think it's not ready for prime time. The tools are evolving very fast, but the business models suck.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/chatgpt-status-reddit-down-gibberish-messages-latest-b2499816.html
This started happening yesterday afternoon. No one knows why it's happening.
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