A transcendental something
- awouldbehipster
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15 years 9 months ago #56938
by awouldbehipster
A transcendental something was created by awouldbehipster
I just read the following excerpt from Ken Wilber's book 'One Taste'...
"You have to know that there actually is a transcendental something, if you are going to free anybody from anything'”if there is no beyond-the-given, there is no freedom from the given, and liberation is futile."
The Buddha conveys a nearly identical teaching in the Udana (Ud 8.3, to be exact)...
"There is, monks, an unborn, unbecome, unmade, uncompounded. If there were not this unborn, unbecome, unmade, uncompounded, then there would be no deliverance here visible from that which is born, become, made, compounded. But since there is this unborn, unbecome, unmade, uncompounded, therefore deliverance is visible from that which is born, become, made, compounded."
Thought provoking, isn't it?
"You have to know that there actually is a transcendental something, if you are going to free anybody from anything'”if there is no beyond-the-given, there is no freedom from the given, and liberation is futile."
The Buddha conveys a nearly identical teaching in the Udana (Ud 8.3, to be exact)...
"There is, monks, an unborn, unbecome, unmade, uncompounded. If there were not this unborn, unbecome, unmade, uncompounded, then there would be no deliverance here visible from that which is born, become, made, compounded. But since there is this unborn, unbecome, unmade, uncompounded, therefore deliverance is visible from that which is born, become, made, compounded."
Thought provoking, isn't it?
- garyrh
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15 years 9 months ago #56939
by garyrh
Replied by garyrh on topic RE: A transcendental something
The conceptual mind struggles with this. Now, when the conceptual mind wants to deal with or deny the transcendental, I give it the challenge to know anything fundamental about the fact there is existence. Existence is undeniable and the conceptual mind can say nothing of it.
- roomy
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15 years 9 months ago #56940
by roomy
Replied by roomy on topic RE: A transcendental something
The bizarre wisdom of discredited ex-presidents:
"It depends on what the definition of 'is,' is."-- W.J. Clinton
"They misunderestimate me."-- G.W. Bush
... It has come to seem to me that our collective confusion at this juncture, as in the past, is that we severely misunderestimate reality, and so look for the transcendental to be different, separate, and elsewhere from the mundane reality. 'Is' there 'a transcendental something'? It all depends on what the definition of 'is', is.
"It depends on what the definition of 'is,' is."-- W.J. Clinton
"They misunderestimate me."-- G.W. Bush
... It has come to seem to me that our collective confusion at this juncture, as in the past, is that we severely misunderestimate reality, and so look for the transcendental to be different, separate, and elsewhere from the mundane reality. 'Is' there 'a transcendental something'? It all depends on what the definition of 'is', is.
- kennethfolk
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15 years 9 months ago #56941
by kennethfolk
Replied by kennethfolk on topic RE: A transcendental something
"The bizarre wisdom of discredited ex-presidents:
"It depends on what the definition of 'is,' is."-- W.J. Clinton
"They misunderestimate me."-- G.W. Bush
... It has come to seem to me that our collective confusion at this juncture, as in the past, is that we severely misunderestimate reality, and so look for the transcendental to be different, separate, and elsewhere from the mundane reality. 'Is' there 'a transcendental something'? It all depends on what the definition of 'is', is.-Roomy"
;-D
"It depends on what the definition of 'is,' is."-- W.J. Clinton
"They misunderestimate me."-- G.W. Bush
... It has come to seem to me that our collective confusion at this juncture, as in the past, is that we severely misunderestimate reality, and so look for the transcendental to be different, separate, and elsewhere from the mundane reality. 'Is' there 'a transcendental something'? It all depends on what the definition of 'is', is.-Roomy"
;-D