Arhats & the Perspectives of Consciousness

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Seeing as Kenneth is an arahat and he has the abiltiy to dwell in number 6, then 6?

Isn't perspective number 6 something that you can learn to dwell in even without having gotten arahatship?

I would say they have the ability to see from every perspective depending on whether they want to develop the higher perspectives or not. But if they didn't, maybe they would stay at the Witness. But I guess it might depend on whether they have acccess to the hgher jhanas since they seem to correpond to the Witness in the graph. Could arahats not have developed access to the jhanas? I would say, cleaning out the mind at each path moment would make accessing the jhanas unavoidable and too easy....at least the first 4. So in other words I would say...it depends.

Edited to add that I have mad third eye pressure affecting my thinking skills so forgive the scattered writing. Hehe!

OK, then. Let's have some geeky fun with this one!

Kenneth presents Arahantship as a developmental attainment that is achieved when one successfully objectifies and dis-embeds from (or accesses and penetrates) each of (if not merely some number of) the finite strata of mind.

As the Strawman Model correlates Kenneth's 20 Major Strata with the 6 PoCs, we could say that the Arahant is s/he who succeeds in objectifying and dis-embedding from each of the 20 Major Strata, i.e. from each of the 6 PoCs.

However, just because one has dis-embedded from (i.e. dis-identified with) each of these Strata/PoCs, their habitual perspective may still default to one of the lower PoCs; say 1, 2, or 3 - the personal perspectives. With further practice, the Arahant may further develop through continued practice, resulting in a shift of their Center of Gravity (C.O.G.) up to one of the higher perspectives. We could thus conclude that one who is fully Enlightened is one who has not only dis-embedded from the 20 Strata/6 PoCs, but has also moved their C.O.G. to the highest possible PoC. That is no small feat!

Just ideas. What does everyone else think?

~Jackson

I agree with Jackson. I should have just let you post first. Hahaha! Damn third eye pressure!