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Right Speech in the Pragmatic Scene
- NikolaiStephenHalay
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14 years 2 months ago #83440
by NikolaiStephenHalay
Right Speech in the Pragmatic Scene was created by NikolaiStephenHalay
Here are some guidelines the Buddha talked of in the Abhaya sutta. I have been quite guilty of all of these transgressions and doing the opposite in the past. But on continuous reflection, there is the intention arising to follow them from now on.
If I have said anything that has offended or caused the subtlest to the grossest of discomfort for someone, I plead forgiveness from them. I, myself, forgive anyone else who in the past may have done the same to me. If I trip over in the future, I hope to be called on it.
Do you think these guidelines are appropriate for this place and the pragmatic dharma scene in general?
[1] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be unfactual, untrue, unbeneficial (or: not connected with the goal), unendearing & disagreeable to others, he does not say them.
[2] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, unbeneficial, unendearing & disagreeable to others, he does not say them.
[3] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, beneficial, but unendearing & disagreeable to others, he has a sense of the proper time for saying them.
[4] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be unfactual, untrue, unbeneficial, but endearing & agreeable to others, he does not say them.
[5] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, unbeneficial, but endearing & agreeable to others, he does not say them.
[6] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, beneficial, and endearing & agreeable to others, he has a sense of the proper time for saying them. Why is that? Because the Tathagata has sympathy for living beings."
www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.058.than.html
If I have said anything that has offended or caused the subtlest to the grossest of discomfort for someone, I plead forgiveness from them. I, myself, forgive anyone else who in the past may have done the same to me. If I trip over in the future, I hope to be called on it.
Do you think these guidelines are appropriate for this place and the pragmatic dharma scene in general?
[1] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be unfactual, untrue, unbeneficial (or: not connected with the goal), unendearing & disagreeable to others, he does not say them.
[2] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, unbeneficial, unendearing & disagreeable to others, he does not say them.
[3] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, beneficial, but unendearing & disagreeable to others, he has a sense of the proper time for saying them.
[4] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be unfactual, untrue, unbeneficial, but endearing & agreeable to others, he does not say them.
[5] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, unbeneficial, but endearing & agreeable to others, he does not say them.
[6] In the case of words that the Tathagata knows to be factual, true, beneficial, and endearing & agreeable to others, he has a sense of the proper time for saying them. Why is that? Because the Tathagata has sympathy for living beings."
www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.058.than.html
- cmarti
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14 years 2 months ago #83441
by cmarti
Nick, that's fine by me. But I think it's sufficient to do the following (worded in modern English):
- be respectful of other posters here
- do not call people names or engage in the exercise of describing their person, personality or personal attributes
- when you disagree with someone, make it about the issues and not about the person you disagree with
- don't do anything unlawful here, such as violate copyright or encourage anyone else to do anything unlawful
Finally, and this is happening here more frequently, we are not here to evangelize. By that I mean we are not here to sell others on our particular way. This is a branded site called "Kenneth Folk Dharma." If you have another view, another path, a different set of practices that you want to encourage others to follow you will just have to do so elsewhere.
I will enforce these rules from now on.
Replied by cmarti on topic RE: Right Speech in the Pragmatic Scene
Nick, that's fine by me. But I think it's sufficient to do the following (worded in modern English):
- be respectful of other posters here
- do not call people names or engage in the exercise of describing their person, personality or personal attributes
- when you disagree with someone, make it about the issues and not about the person you disagree with
- don't do anything unlawful here, such as violate copyright or encourage anyone else to do anything unlawful
Finally, and this is happening here more frequently, we are not here to evangelize. By that I mean we are not here to sell others on our particular way. This is a branded site called "Kenneth Folk Dharma." If you have another view, another path, a different set of practices that you want to encourage others to follow you will just have to do so elsewhere.
I will enforce these rules from now on.