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Is "luminosity" the intrinsic awareness aspect of phenomena?

  • orasis
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85041 by orasis
I've seen this term "luminosity" used a few times and I've been confused about how its being used.

Is luminosity referring the nature of phenomena to seemingly generate awareness in the absence of a subject that is aware? Or is luminosity referring to some experience or state?
  • cmarti
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85042 by cmarti

For me the word "luminosity" refers to the natural clarity of mind. Crystal clear, bright, shining, unobstructed..... luminous.

  • roomy
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85043 by roomy
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For me the word "luminosity" refers to the natural clarity of mind. Crystal clear, bright, shining, unobstructed..... luminous.

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I'd add my personal sense that there seems a dynamic quality to 'luminous' that complements 'emptiness', with which I've seen it paired: 'luminous emptiness'; I've thought it was one of those Heart Sutra paradoxes-- wisdom and compassion, emptiness and form, activity and being.
  • APrioriKreuz
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85044 by APrioriKreuz
Luminosity/Clarity can be another way to refer to emptiness. Because the nature of phenomena is empty, reality can be discerned clearly, with lucidity.
  • giragirasol
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85045 by giragirasol
It has seemed to me that "luminous" has an experiential aspect, which is probably why someone decided to use the word. I mean, when texts refer to things like "bright, shining, clear" etc I would assume it's because those words resonated with how the writer or their colleagues were experiencing things. I wouldn't ever say luminous refers to a state - it's not like a trance or visual changes or anything like that, but luminosity, clarity etc do refer to something experiential, an immediacy and brightness. When that is first experienced in particular I think it can be quite startling, wondrous. But it's not a visual effect, it's like a hyper-clarity of mind. Does anyone agree with my clunky attempt to reply? Is it helpful?
  • mumuwu
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85046 by mumuwu
""And after these insights, it doesn't mean you become very alert every moment in the sense that you attend to all the details and notice what others are telling you and so on. Luminosity and attention are different things... there can be vivid luminosity without engagement in the contents/details of the arising, which requires thought-focus/attention. If I am attending a class, I can definitely still lose focus or tune out totally sometimes (oh and I never was good in concentrating to a speaker, and my primary school teacher used to tell me to go seek medical help for attention deficit disorder though I didn't... lol). The fact remains however that there is just that phenomenon arising without a controller or experiencer.

And that phenomenon... be it an unfocused or focused phenomenon... is a luminous arising. Luminosity does not depend on attention or focus, so do not make it contrived... luminosity is effortless, ever-present, never lost... for luminosity is the essence of ALL arisings... in whatever forms it takes... in the mental phenomenon of attention... or in the engagement of thoughts... or in sounds... or sight... or whatever. In seeing, just shapes and forms... In hearing, just the da-da-da of the keyboard... just appearances alone is the luminosity.

Luminosity is the effortless and spontaneous flow of manifestation happening without a director or perceiver. Hearing does not require focused attention, it just happens... seeing does not require focused attention, it just happens'¦ focused-attention does not require or have an attender, it just happens. But whatever IS, IS luminosity."

"There are only unique, individual, expressions of life that cannot be equated with each other... our thoughts, our experiences are different, even though they share the same taste of luminosity (aliveness) and emptiness (ungraspability)."

-AnEternalNow - Who AM I?
  • mumuwu
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14 years 3 weeks ago #85047 by mumuwu
Notice that you aren't dead. That you are having an experience. A real deal, alive happening is present in front of you (rather than no consciousness at all).

That realness, that aliveness of experience is luminosity.

Notice how effortless it is? If you are having an experience, that having of an experience is the luminous nature.

The ungraspability/undefinability/etc. of it is emptiness.
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