i need help
- leemoore
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16 years 1 month ago #53472
by leemoore
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In my experience, self-correlation of classic maps to personal experiences helps if either you have a significant amount of experience and attainment or your are progressing within a fairly narrow variability of speed usually ranging from fast progression to moderately fast progression. If you are off the charts fast, the maps may not be helpful. If you are making slow to moderate progress, there is so much moving forward, falling back and general experiential noise that trying to map experience personally is generally an exercise in frustration and futility.
If however you are making continuous fast to moderately fast progress through new territory, (I've experienced this a few times on retreat) and you have conceptual familiarity with the maps, charting your progress is often much easier.
If however you are making continuous fast to moderately fast progress through new territory, (I've experienced this a few times on retreat) and you have conceptual familiarity with the maps, charting your progress is often much easier.
- leemoore
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16 years 1 month ago #53473
by leemoore
Replied by leemoore on topic RE: i need help
To quantify a little, I would say moderately fast to fast progress would be moving through 1 new Vipassana Jhana every 1-4 days. If you've read some of Daniels stories MCTB he really got hooked on the maps when he progressed at this rate during the retreat he got stream entry and the retreat before.
I've had 2 retreat periods like that and for me charting progress seemed trivially obvious. During the vast majority of retreat time however, things moved a bit more slowly and I found the charting progress extremely frustrating and was almost always one of my "top 5 tunes" of content to spin on.
Lee
I've had 2 retreat periods like that and for me charting progress seemed trivially obvious. During the vast majority of retreat time however, things moved a bit more slowly and I found the charting progress extremely frustrating and was almost always one of my "top 5 tunes" of content to spin on.
Lee
