Compassion isn't an affective feeling: Discuss

Hey foolbutnotforlong!

I guess cause compassion is experienced to be outside of the dichotomy of good or bad, right and wrong. Rather it is a direct apprehension of empathy for the existence of another being (human or otherwise) - which seems to be deeply fundamental to Being; and follows from consciousness of what it means to 'exist', as existence itself. That is, it is the apprehension of the fundamental nature of both suffering (as 'experiential' ignorance of one's true nature) and perfection (as recognition of the true nature of reality itself). Thus, it is, I would argue, a subjective experience of qualities arising out of the non-dual nature of reality and a recognition of other beings' (and our own) experience of that existence. Which is to say, it is an 'arising' out of non-symbolic consciousness, and so does not presupose language, judgements, an ego or sense of sparateness. On the contrary, it arises out of unity. It is pre-linguistic and meta-cognitive. It is felt and known outside of the domain of conceptual constructs and the discursive, judging mind generally.

So say I, at least.

Adam. edited for clarity typos.

I think compassion is built in. Any time I see a living thing in pain I want to fix it. This has nothing at all to do with whether there is a "me" here, or whether there is good or bad in the universe. It just springs up naturally when I see pain. It's like moving my arm. Compassion just happens and requires no narrative, conception, thought. It just IS.

BTW - I liked stirring the "pod" as an expression.

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I think compassion is built in. Any time I see a living thing in pain I want to fix it. This has nothing at all to do with whether there is a "me" here, or whether there is good or bad in the universe. It just springs up naturally when I see pain. It's like movingly arm. Compassion just happens and requires no narrative, conception, thought. It just IS.

BTW - I liked stirring the "pod" as an expression.

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If this was not understood from my posts in this thread it is what I was attempting to point to. I just empathized that there was no need for an emotional trigger to act compassionately. Rather it just is, as Chris stated, when there is no 'me' standing in the way, it is the natural thing to do.

"3. Compassion is our natural state. "

Hi Nick,
you mentioned that compassion is our natural state. Do you mind explaining what you mean by OUR (whose)?

Hola Jorge, que tal? Tanto tiempo. ¿En qué estás?

I'm looking for the post where I personally stated something using the words you used as in 'OUR'. Can you tell me the number of the post where I wrote that? The only place I can find is the quote I used from the link in the post number 3. Post number 1, 2 and 3 are quotes taken from someone else.

I would say that an ongoing absence of a felt sense of 'me' has as its natural condition/state/default mode a perfect base for karuna to be performed.

senor Nick! aqui estamos! corriendo de aqui a alla! Trying to take a few breaks form studying financial accounting and trying to catch up here in KFDh! seeing some cool posts in here!

agh! that's what happens when skimming takes over thorough reading! one makes. You were pretty specific that those were quotes and not your own words. Sorry I missed it earlier. The whole "our natural state" could probably be perceived as a dualistic view on things, hence the request for a more detailed explanation!

"I would say that an ongoing absence of a felt sense of 'me' has as its natural condition/state/default mode a perfect base for karuna to be performed."

Now that sounds like something Nick would say about Compassion! Thanks!
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-J