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PEJN climbing that second mountain
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14 years 7 months ago #75144
by PEJN
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WEDNESDAY
20 mins shamata in the morning
80 mins noting/shamata/sitting in the evening.
Somewere around 50-60 mins Equanimity sets in.
The stages and transitions were unusually clear this sit.
20 mins shamata in the morning
80 mins noting/shamata/sitting in the evening.
Somewere around 50-60 mins Equanimity sets in.
The stages and transitions were unusually clear this sit.
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75145
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
THURSDAY
Busy morning, no sit.
Evening:
10 mins Pre-meditation session waiting for the shower.
Went down to 1:st hjhana just by closing my eyes. Bright eyes.
2:nd came within a few moments by itself.
3: arrived, then I willed myself into 4:th.
Took my shower.
Formal evening sit:
75 mins totally, with a short bathroom break @60m.
Mix of flickering sensations, deep concentration and spacing out in fantasies.
No "sitting"-pains or restlessness at all.
Busy morning, no sit.
Evening:
10 mins Pre-meditation session waiting for the shower.
Went down to 1:st hjhana just by closing my eyes. Bright eyes.
2:nd came within a few moments by itself.
3: arrived, then I willed myself into 4:th.
Took my shower.
Formal evening sit:
75 mins totally, with a short bathroom break @60m.
Mix of flickering sensations, deep concentration and spacing out in fantasies.
No "sitting"-pains or restlessness at all.
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75146
by PEJN
FRIDAY
Morning sit:
20 mins.
Spaced out in the end, surprised by bell.
During day:irritated.
Early evening bonus meditation.
30mins TM in the sofa.
Evening sit:
1h&40mins
As soon as I sit down it seems the meditation goes by itself.
I can't really control if I am noting,noticing or concentrating.
One large energetic A&P-jolt @20mins.
Later a lot of flickering, vibrations (~10hz) and pulsing.
Noices and pains are noticed but too far away to disturb.
It feels like a am being "worked on" by something, a house being renovated, in the tearing down phase. A dough kneaded.
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
FRIDAY
Morning sit:
20 mins.
Spaced out in the end, surprised by bell.
During day:irritated.
Early evening bonus meditation.
30mins TM in the sofa.
Evening sit:
1h&40mins
As soon as I sit down it seems the meditation goes by itself.
I can't really control if I am noting,noticing or concentrating.
One large energetic A&P-jolt @20mins.
Later a lot of flickering, vibrations (~10hz) and pulsing.
Noices and pains are noticed but too far away to disturb.
It feels like a am being "worked on" by something, a house being renovated, in the tearing down phase. A dough kneaded.
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75147
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
SATURDAY
Busy, no morning sit.
In the early evening had a crappy time.
Became irritated.
Then very tired (head not body), tried to sleep for an hour, became a mix of unwilling meditation and sleeping. Unpleasant.
Evening sit:
1h&40mins
First messy, much like yesterdays sit.
After 40 mins things calmed down.
Some 'build-ups' came. Like something wanted to happen.
Felt no reason to stop but had to think about tomorrow morning.
Busy, no morning sit.
In the early evening had a crappy time.
Became irritated.
Then very tired (head not body), tried to sleep for an hour, became a mix of unwilling meditation and sleeping. Unpleasant.
Evening sit:
1h&40mins
First messy, much like yesterdays sit.
After 40 mins things calmed down.
Some 'build-ups' came. Like something wanted to happen.
Felt no reason to stop but had to think about tomorrow morning.
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75148
by PEJN
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SUNDAY
Evening sit:
1h&35mins
Messy again...
Body was "upset" after plenty of workout today. Never really settled down. A lot of doubt about my tecnique (or lack of tecnique).
In the last minutes all concentration disappered completely. Recogniced how much my feet hurt (did not notice before) and went up. (5 mins after bell rang)
/Goodnight Pejn
Evening sit:
1h&35mins
Messy again...
Body was "upset" after plenty of workout today. Never really settled down. A lot of doubt about my tecnique (or lack of tecnique).
In the last minutes all concentration disappered completely. Recogniced how much my feet hurt (did not notice before) and went up. (5 mins after bell rang)
/Goodnight Pejn
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75149
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
MONDAY
Morning sit:
25 mins. Pretty good in the end
During day, some flickering and irritation, but "okness" in the background.
Evening sit:
60 flickering and messy minutes, with bad concentration.
Only the last minutes some calming down and some enjoyment.
Goodnight /Pejn
Morning sit:
25 mins. Pretty good in the end
During day, some flickering and irritation, but "okness" in the background.
Evening sit:
60 flickering and messy minutes, with bad concentration.
Only the last minutes some calming down and some enjoyment.
Goodnight /Pejn
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75150
by PEJN
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TUESDAY
Morning sit 20 mins.
Evening sit:
2 h (personal record!)
Started a bit earlier. Felt calm, so I decided to try for 2 hours.
This meditation was very different from previous.
Became calm quickly.
Saw that every moment is entirely new and disturbances and everything from a second ago is just a memory now or is gone.
Observed like this: How will existence appear for me this next moment? Really hanged on to everything.
Two position shiftes with one stretcher. Two hours just flew.
Some bodily restlessness arrived the last 10 minutes where my flow finally was broken.
Goodnight /Pejn
Morning sit 20 mins.
Evening sit:
2 h (personal record!)
Started a bit earlier. Felt calm, so I decided to try for 2 hours.
This meditation was very different from previous.
Became calm quickly.
Saw that every moment is entirely new and disturbances and everything from a second ago is just a memory now or is gone.
Observed like this: How will existence appear for me this next moment? Really hanged on to everything.
Two position shiftes with one stretcher. Two hours just flew.
Some bodily restlessness arrived the last 10 minutes where my flow finally was broken.
Goodnight /Pejn
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75151
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
WEDNESDAY
Due to bad dicipline, today only 10 mins morning sit and 30 mins evening sit.
Nothing happened really...
Due to bad dicipline, today only 10 mins morning sit and 30 mins evening sit.
Nothing happened really...
- Antero.
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14 years 7 months ago #75152
by Antero.
Replied by Antero. on topic RE: Practice log
"Nothing happened really... 
- PEJN"
Now THAT would be really interesting indeed
- PEJN"
Now THAT would be really interesting indeed
- meekan
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14 years 7 months ago #75153
by meekan
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"Now THAT would be really interesting indeed
"

Suddenly I feel like smiling at domeone holding up a flower...

Suddenly I feel like smiling at domeone holding up a flower...
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75154
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
THURSDAY
Dicipline is back!
Morning sit: 30mins
Evening sit 1h30mins
No sense of nana-development at all. I feel like being all over the place randomly during the sit...
The last 30 mins a lot of "drifting away". Not so much daydreaming but "unawareness".
Tried to counter that by opening my eyes and note loud. Only halfly successful.
Goodnight /Pejn
Dicipline is back!
Morning sit: 30mins
Evening sit 1h30mins
No sense of nana-development at all. I feel like being all over the place randomly during the sit...
The last 30 mins a lot of "drifting away". Not so much daydreaming but "unawareness".
Tried to counter that by opening my eyes and note loud. Only halfly successful.
Goodnight /Pejn
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75155
by PEJN
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FRIDAY
Overslept -> no morning sit
Afternoon after coming home from work i had some spare time before family came home.
Tired, so I took a nap in my chair.
Just about to fall asleep I tried to note the feelings of tiredness. This was definitely against the grains and there was aversion against doing this and not falling asleep. But this turned it into meditation instead...
The 50 min session was very really calm and silent. Not many thoughts at all. Some build-ups of energy into the head came and went. Once got fast flickering eyes that turned into eye tension and then relief.
Moments of only experiencing seing 'paper wite'.
1 hour later in a grocery store the concentration/dizziness attack came again like in post 44 twenty days ago.
"Energy" going up the body and into the head making me extremely "light headed".
It was triggered by a short thought of how it would be like practicing on a retreat.
It was less forceful and less scary this time. After a few minutes I could collect myself and pick my food again.
Evening sit.
1h 30mins.
A bit unfocused.
Once I spaced out into dreaming and was "wakened" by sudden energy/brightness in the eyes.
The last 20 mins had some aversions against sitting (oncomfortable body) and just "sat through" it. Stood up and felt my feet moving the last 5 mins.
Overslept -> no morning sit
Afternoon after coming home from work i had some spare time before family came home.
Tired, so I took a nap in my chair.
Just about to fall asleep I tried to note the feelings of tiredness. This was definitely against the grains and there was aversion against doing this and not falling asleep. But this turned it into meditation instead...
The 50 min session was very really calm and silent. Not many thoughts at all. Some build-ups of energy into the head came and went. Once got fast flickering eyes that turned into eye tension and then relief.
Moments of only experiencing seing 'paper wite'.
1 hour later in a grocery store the concentration/dizziness attack came again like in post 44 twenty days ago.
"Energy" going up the body and into the head making me extremely "light headed".
It was triggered by a short thought of how it would be like practicing on a retreat.
It was less forceful and less scary this time. After a few minutes I could collect myself and pick my food again.
Evening sit.
1h 30mins.
A bit unfocused.
Once I spaced out into dreaming and was "wakened" by sudden energy/brightness in the eyes.
The last 20 mins had some aversions against sitting (oncomfortable body) and just "sat through" it. Stood up and felt my feet moving the last 5 mins.
- kennethfolk
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14 years 7 months ago #75156
by kennethfolk
Replied by kennethfolk on topic RE: Practice log
Fantastic. Keep on keepin' on.
- PEJN
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14 years 7 months ago #75157
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
SATURDAY
Felt calm and content all day today. Only a slight dizziness when focusing.
One evening sit:
1h 35 mins
The first moments were overwhelming:
Sat down. Relaxed body. Relaxed mind. Now the 'energies' grabbed hold of my mind, rotated it around a few turns in the head and then squeezed it down into firm 1:st jhana. Nothing I could do but hang on!
The rest was very much like yesterdays evening sit.
After a while a lot of stillness and all around awareness mixed with more messy stuff.
Again I had to finish by standing/walking, too much tension around the eyes after sitting 75 mins and also dullness creeping in. Kept tight focus on my feet while standing. Refreshing!
A few moments of sitting with concentration to round up the session.
Goodnight /Pejn
Felt calm and content all day today. Only a slight dizziness when focusing.
One evening sit:
1h 35 mins
The first moments were overwhelming:
Sat down. Relaxed body. Relaxed mind. Now the 'energies' grabbed hold of my mind, rotated it around a few turns in the head and then squeezed it down into firm 1:st jhana. Nothing I could do but hang on!
The rest was very much like yesterdays evening sit.
After a while a lot of stillness and all around awareness mixed with more messy stuff.
Again I had to finish by standing/walking, too much tension around the eyes after sitting 75 mins and also dullness creeping in. Kept tight focus on my feet while standing. Refreshing!
A few moments of sitting with concentration to round up the session.
Goodnight /Pejn
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75158
by PEJN
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Log
SUNDAY
Felt crappy all day.
Irritated and tired.
Afternoon sit:
Aimed for 30 mins to refresh. Became 50 mins.
Beatyfully calm in the end. Wanted to sit more but had appopintments.
Evening sit:
1h.
I have started to add some mantra into the mix.
Works well to calm down the mind & some tensions when needed.
Also seems to give access to deeper thought layers. (Well known from my TM-practice)
SUNDAY
Felt crappy all day.
Irritated and tired.
Afternoon sit:
Aimed for 30 mins to refresh. Became 50 mins.
Beatyfully calm in the end. Wanted to sit more but had appopintments.
Evening sit:
1h.
I have started to add some mantra into the mix.
Works well to calm down the mind & some tensions when needed.
Also seems to give access to deeper thought layers. (Well known from my TM-practice)
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75159
by PEJN
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MONDAY
Morning sit: 20 mins
Pulsing in head during all day.
Evening sit:
1h&10 min
Started standing for 10mins feeling my feet.
Used mantras again.
During this sit I had 6-8 energy rushes up to the head giving strong "starry" eye focus. These came after drifting off and then "sudden "wakening".
One of them early in session scared me. The rest was just pretty powerful
Goodnight /Pejn
Morning sit: 20 mins
Pulsing in head during all day.
Evening sit:
1h&10 min
Started standing for 10mins feeling my feet.
Used mantras again.
During this sit I had 6-8 energy rushes up to the head giving strong "starry" eye focus. These came after drifting off and then "sudden "wakening".
One of them early in session scared me. The rest was just pretty powerful
Goodnight /Pejn
- mumuwu
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14 years 6 months ago #75160
by mumuwu
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Saturday - dissolution
Sunday - Dark Night
Monday - Equanimity
Maybe?
Sunday - Dark Night
Monday - Equanimity
Maybe?
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75161
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
Hi Mu.
Maybe..., the stages are a mess right now.
For many years I have had a "Saturday-desease" where I am full of energy and good mood early in the day, and a few hours later it turns into tiredness, irritation and headache. Sundays are fine.
SE have made it better.
Maybe..., the stages are a mess right now.
For many years I have had a "Saturday-desease" where I am full of energy and good mood early in the day, and a few hours later it turns into tiredness, irritation and headache. Sundays are fine.
SE have made it better.
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75162
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
TUESDAY
Morning sit 25 mins noticing.
Did not want to break up when bell rang, felt too good.
Early afternoon:
Sat down to relax.
Closed my eyes and was immediately in 1:st jhana. A few moments later 2:nd came by itself.
I tried to go to 3:rd and did so. Then 4:th.
All this took no more than 1 or 2 minutes.
Drifted off.
Felt something like the record player needle jumping/scratching over 3-4 vinyl tracks, and woke up with bright eyes.
Went for a nap afterwards.
Had maddening, fast and fine granulated vibrations.
Wondered how I cold function in society feeling like this!
After maybe 20 mins a "scratch" came with a focus shift and the vibrations went into the backgrond.
Evening sit:
1h&15 mins
Sitting in seiza with "full body awereness".
Felt really good, especially during "Body and Mind".
Extended the sit 15 mins more than planned.
Quit when I had some sharp neck pains that needed stretching.
The pain flashes gave me an interesting concentration peak.
Morning sit 25 mins noticing.
Did not want to break up when bell rang, felt too good.
Early afternoon:
Sat down to relax.
Closed my eyes and was immediately in 1:st jhana. A few moments later 2:nd came by itself.
I tried to go to 3:rd and did so. Then 4:th.
All this took no more than 1 or 2 minutes.
Drifted off.
Felt something like the record player needle jumping/scratching over 3-4 vinyl tracks, and woke up with bright eyes.
Went for a nap afterwards.
Had maddening, fast and fine granulated vibrations.
Wondered how I cold function in society feeling like this!
After maybe 20 mins a "scratch" came with a focus shift and the vibrations went into the backgrond.
Evening sit:
1h&15 mins
Sitting in seiza with "full body awereness".
Felt really good, especially during "Body and Mind".
Extended the sit 15 mins more than planned.
Quit when I had some sharp neck pains that needed stretching.
The pain flashes gave me an interesting concentration peak.
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75163
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
WEDNESDAY
Morning, just 15 mins
Evening sit, 1h
Body hurting after exercice. Nothing special to report that I remember...
Morning, just 15 mins
Evening sit, 1h
Body hurting after exercice. Nothing special to report that I remember...
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75164
by PEJN
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THURSDAY
15mins meditation in taxi to airport.
On the airplane, concentration meditation during start to avoid travel sickness. (noting made it worse!)
@45mins I felt I could relax just a little more. I let go of the last little tension in body and in head.
That directly caused that scary energy to rise again. Like a slow silent airy explosion in body and head. It ended in a all-body tingling pressure that slowly faded away.
Nothing to do on the plane so I meditated 1.5-2h totally.
Will continue when I get to wifi-connections...
15mins meditation in taxi to airport.
On the airplane, concentration meditation during start to avoid travel sickness. (noting made it worse!)
@45mins I felt I could relax just a little more. I let go of the last little tension in body and in head.
That directly caused that scary energy to rise again. Like a slow silent airy explosion in body and head. It ended in a all-body tingling pressure that slowly faded away.
Nothing to do on the plane so I meditated 1.5-2h totally.
Will continue when I get to wifi-connections...
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75165
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
Cont...
Evening sit:
Irritating itching restlessness in the body, mostly legs and chest.
Managed only 40 mins, and the last 10 in some quite unorthodox postures
Now in the morning some of this restlessness is still there..
Evening sit:
Irritating itching restlessness in the body, mostly legs and chest.
Managed only 40 mins, and the last 10 in some quite unorthodox postures
Now in the morning some of this restlessness is still there..
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75166
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
Let's see.. yesterday was
FRIDAY
Appearantly the explosion yesterday made me good, high alertness and not a trace of tiredness all day friday.
Also feel more "stable".
Evening sit:
1h&30mins.
Sitting in the bed, bad support so many position changes.
Most of the session Went like: noting, then drifting away, then wakening up with energy over and over again
Just a little bit of restlessness in the end.
FRIDAY
Appearantly the explosion yesterday made me good, high alertness and not a trace of tiredness all day friday.
Also feel more "stable".
Evening sit:
1h&30mins.
Sitting in the bed, bad support so many position changes.
Most of the session Went like: noting, then drifting away, then wakening up with energy over and over again
Just a little bit of restlessness in the end.
- PEJN
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14 years 6 months ago #75167
by PEJN
Replied by PEJN on topic Practice log
SATURDAY
Only meditating lying down in bed.
Just watching vibrations, after a while the same drifting away and "sharp" "wakening ups"
I am getting curious abot this
Will do a "real" session tonight and investigate.
Only meditating lying down in bed.
Just watching vibrations, after a while the same drifting away and "sharp" "wakening ups"
I am getting curious abot this
Will do a "real" session tonight and investigate.
- andymr
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14 years 6 months ago #75168
by andymr
Replied by andymr on topic RE: Practice log
What do you think the "explosion" thing was?
